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Saturday January 14,  2006: Pronunciations and word fun
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Today on Folk Plus, I'm exploring pronunciation. I will be playing people with names that are hard to pronounce or songs involved with interesting pronunciations or word fun. Here we go....

Fred Estair and Ginger Rogers - Lets Call the Whole Thing Off

Rex Harrison - Why Can't the English
My Fair Lady - Columbia Records
 

Camille West's husband's last name is wodicka (WOOD-ick-uh), so she kept her maiden name.
Camille West - I'm Dyslexic 209
Diva's Day Off - www.camille-west.com/
Tish happens....
 

Jay Mankita - Cliche Song
official Bootleg 2002 - jaymankita.com

Cheryl Wheeler  - Potatoe 255
Sylvia Hotel - Philo

In the dj world we find ourselves having to introduce songs - sometimes in other languages, or names with silent letters. It got some of us talking about troubled names. Someone wondered to what degree djs would avoid playing someone like, say, irish artist Maighread Ní Dhomhnaill because we'd be too scared of messing up her name.

Tríona Ní Dhomhnaill : "Three-o-na Nee Go-null" - Stor A Stor A Ghra
Triona Ni Dhomhnaill - Green Linnet Records
"are you coming or are you going"

Tríona Ní Dhomhnaill : "Three-o-na Nee Go-null"  Triona is the sister of Micheál O Domnaill. Shes been in the bands, Nightnoise, and Skara Brae, The Bothy Band and Relativity. This is her solo album, self titled. Her brother Michael's last name is Ó'Domhnaill, hers is Ni Dhomnaill. In Irish, "O" means son of Domhnaill and  "Ní" Dhomnaill means daughter of Domhnaill.

Carla Ulbrichs responce to the question about playing Maighread Ni dhomhnall because we couldnt pronounce the name said: " If I were Maighread Ní Dhomhnaill, I think I'd go by "Ni."

 Carla Ulbrich - A Name is a Name (My name is Carla) 249
Professional Smart Aleck -  www.carlau.com
"Ulbrich is pronounced Ole-brick." (note the abbreviated last name U is pronounced  "you.")

Carla Ulbrich joked about beginning the difficult last name club. She says "You know if you're one of those people whose  name is always getting mangled by teachers on the first day of class, or receptionists, or over the intercom.

Flanders and Swann - GNU
At teh Droop of a hat - Parlophone

Lou and Peter Berryman - Dupsha Dove 250
House Concert - Cornbelt Records
pronounce dupsha dupsha dupsha..... three times fast

Les Barker - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch 322
Oranges and Lemmings - Mrs. Acroyd Records

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.com is the longest single word (without hyphens) .com domain name in the world.  It was registered by Internetters on 21st October 1999.   This Welsh town actually exists and its name translates as "The church of St. Mary in the hollow of white hazel trees near the rapid whirlpool by St. Tysilio's of the red cave".

Laura Smith - Four Letter Word For Lonesome
Between the Earth and My Soul - www.laurasmith.ca/
 

Pete Seeger - Guantanamera (I am a truthful man from the land of the palm trees)
Greatest Hits - Columbia

Many people have some pretty hard to pronounce names.
Feel free to call in during the programme and share your hard to pronounce name.

Penny Nichols - I'll Never Be that Old Again
I'll Never Be that Old Again - Pensong productions
Great name eh?

Aoife Clancy - The Earl of March's Daughter
(on bass: Blennerhassett and on guitar Ted Ponsonby and on fiddle Lissa Schneckenburger!)
Silvery Moon - Appleseed
A story about Tushielaw (Tush ee law)

More Irish:
Irish doesn't have the following letters j,k,q,v,w,x,y,z

Vowels are divided into being either "Broad vowels" or "slender". Broad are "a, o and u" and these make consonants behave differently than the slender vowels "of e and i." Think about English, we say car and recieve.... hard near the a, soft near the i and e.... but the letter c in irinsh is always pronounced hard, like CAR, never soft like ceiling. (Celtics, with a soft c,  is only an american pronunciation for a football team)

Two examples of the consonants "mh" near an borad vowel, an "a" and changing pronounciation to the sound of a "w"

Clannad - Mo Mhaire (moe why ruh) 241
Dulaman - Shanachie
Maire Ni Bhroanain, Ciaran O Braonain, Pol O Braonain, Padraig O'Dugain, Noel O Dugain

Clannad - DTigeas a Damhsa (jiggy so dowsa) 127
Dulaman - Shanachie

not true in this song cuz of the possessive case...

Cathie Ryan - Peata Beag Do Mhathar
 plural of “Bean” is “Mna” van and na
 

Modern Man - God Loves the Irish 443
The Wide Album - Inverted Turtle Records

Susan Aglukark -  Amazing Grace (sung in Inuik)
Artic Rose - www.susanaglukark.com/

Anais Mitchell - Two Kids (Iraqui verse by Syrian poet Noor al-Din Ba'aj)
Hyms for the Exhiled - Waterbug

Here's Mary Gauthier - Mary writes "say say  go-shay y'all"
Mary Gauthier  - Good-Bye
Filth & Fire - Signature Sounds
"Good-bye could have been my family name"

Patty Larkin - ChanelsMarlene Dietrich...
Laugh Tracks Vol 1. - Shanachie
 
 

Joe Giacoio: Gee-Uh- COY- Oh -
I sing the Body Acoustic - Romantic Devil Records

All ABout Buford - Intro Henry Bascomb blows their name in his intro .45
Car Wash 252 - Supercar - www.allaboutbuford.com/

Moxy Früvous (from the Wikopedia) is one of the many bands whose name includes an umlaut. The name "Moxy Früvous" is a null phrase, although the Bargainville liner notes contained a faux-dictionary listing of definitions for früvous. The band has never given a straight answer on the origin of their name.

Moxy Früvous - King of Spain
 

Gillian Welch -- or is it pronounced "Jillian"? - paul Stamler of
 

The Duhks - Le Meunier et la Jeune-Fille, Les Quatre Fer en L'air
Your Daughters and Your Sons -

For Eliza Gilkyson's last name, I first wrote and said
GIL-kin-son rather than Eliza's name: Gilkyson (GIL-ki-son)
Eliza Gilkyson -
 
 

Roches - Ing 300
Dove - MCA records

Jan Eggum - Mor, Jeg Vil Tilbake (more yeah vill tobacca) 344
Dacapo - Sigma
mom, I wanna return to you ( the idea of longing for your mom, whatever your age)

Carla Sciaky - "see-AH-kee" - Awakening
Awakening - Green Linnet
 

And I once read an article by someone who got invited to do a folk show when they called a station
to complain that the current folk host was saying Phil Ochs' name as "Ox." - Bob Blackman, "The Folk Tradition," WKAR Radio, East Lansing, MI
 

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